Steve Quail

Interviews Jim Searcy
on Israel & Prophecy

Transcribed by Tim Sawtelle



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Steve: Ladies and Gentlemen with me tonight is the author Jim Searcy of the book "Great Joy in Great Tribulation," simplified prophesy for the last days. I’ve asked Jim to come and talk about what’s going on in Israel. He and I both share the same opinions that Israel is the key of understanding God’s dealing and plans right now, so Jim, welcome!

Jim: Alleluia, Yeshua!

Steve: Amen! Well listen let’s talk about, what’s going on in the Middle East. We’re going to cover a great deal of subjects tonight, so let’s just talk about what is going on right now prophetically in the Middle East.

Jim: Well, right now I see that we are within five minutes of seeing the fulfillment of Isaiah 17 and Amos chapter 1. Jerusalem is the key. All nations will be set against Jerusalem. I guess going all the way back to the beginning, the apostles asked Yeshua about that, remember when He was coming down off the Mount of Olives.

Steve: Right

Jim: They said Lord, isn’t this a fantastic Temple over here? Herod’s Temple? Well it was really Zerubbabel's Temple, the second Temple on which Herod did a spectacular job of remodeling. They loved this Temple. Yeshua said there’s not going to be a stone left on another. He really knocked them over. He really had their attention. And they said Lord, wow, when will this be? And they really asked Him two questions. One question was, when the Temple would be destroyed. The other one was, "what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?" We’ve got three whole chapters where Yeshua answered that question. And fifteen times in there He says,
"TAKE HEED". So it must be pretty important because He doesn’t really waste His words. Everybody knows what these signs are, wars, rumors or wars, famines, pestilence, Israel becoming a nation, gospel being preached in all the world, all these different things. But if you look very carefully; you find that there is just one thing that you can put your finger on and say, this is a specific event, that will happen on a given specific day in history. That’s in verse fifteen where it says

"When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing on the Holy place, let him that reads understand"

Well they had scrolls of the prophet Daniel so they could check this out. Of course we can check it out. And when you go through Daniel looking for that abomination of desolation. There’s just one thing that just jumps off the page at you, when you get to Daniel 9:27. And that’s where we’re at today!

Steve: Jim a lot of people have seen that the United Nations wants to ultimately establish itself in Jerusalem. The Catholic Church is eventually going to move there at some point. There have even been statements by Pope John Paul to that effect. Jerusalem is pretty significant. Now, given the abomination that makes desolate, what do you believe that that is? Because there are a lot of people that are looking for the reestablishment of a literal Temple, a literal sacrifice, and the sacrifice of feasts. And bingo the big "A" the antichrist to show up.

Jim: Well, there are a lot of different possibilities on that. I think that it’s important that we all keep our minds open. I do believe that we will very soon see a very literal fulfillment of this thing. The key is He said "when you see this abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel standing in the Holy Place", and this is what’s so important, the Holy Place. Well, where is the Holy Place? It’s Jerusalem! Specifically it’s on the Temple Mount! What I see is sad how almost all Christians will line up behind the Antichrist regarding the burnt offerings. The Moslems understand this much better than the Christians. You will see if you go back and look at the book of Acts very carefully. You find that the Apostles, after Pentecost, were the easiest people to find in Jerusalem. Even when Paul was raising havoc and everybody fled Jerusalem, these Apostles were always in that Temple, morning and evening. And what was going on in the Temple in the morning and evening times of prayer was something called the CONTINUAL morning and evening OBLATION. That means that there was a little lamb being sacrificed.

Well I know that most people immediately would be repulsed by this. The fact remains that there are probably 25, maybe 30 verses in Acts, that prove the Apostles were there. Now after Pentecost these guys did not do any abominations. So if we think that this is an abomination that these guys risked their lives for daily, we are missing something very important. I mean, they were constantly threatened, you could beat them, you could put them in prison, and if necessary, an Angel would blow the doors off, the next morning they would be back in that Temple. So if we see that as an abomination we really are missing something big time. In Numbers 28 and Exodus 29 this continual morning and evening oblation is described. It is very important that we get an understanding of just what that morning and evening oblation involving the sacrifice of a cute little lamb is all about. On the web site that I have Steve, there is a FREE TAPE covering that whole subject of the CONTINUAL morning and evening OBLATION. I encourage everyone to get this tape and copy it and encourage your friends and loved ones to copy it also. Since these things are so close to coming down right now, and it is free, JUST DO IT. That’s a tape that is being offered FREE to everyone no copyright.

Steve: Why don’t you give us the address to your web site.

Jim: Ok, the web site is http://www.moresureword.com/ and those are all small letters and greatjoy is one word. There is also a Mirror site http://www.jimsearcy.com/

Steve: Ok let’s get into what’s going on in Jerusalem right now, then we’ll take people back to the old testament and we’re going to bring them into the modern day events and we’ll take them to scripture and show them how the two relate. Ok, ladies and gentlemen my special guest Jim Searcy the author of the book "Great Joy in Great Tribulation" simplified prophesy for the last days. Stay tuned and we’ll be right back.

Now Jim what has transpired with Netanyahu being in the United States? We know that he went to see King Hussein, we know that Hanan Ashrawi is here from the Palestinians. Bring us up to date. I want people to see what this weeks events tie in to what you said regarding how we could be only five minutes away from basically what could be a world war. Most people don’t probably understand the significance of these players.

Jim: Yes, I think the probably best place to start would be to go through Netanyahu’s press conference because they will never let him speak live. Now obviously he gave a press conference, you see a little clip here and a little bite there, but there is a plan to that. Now if we went through a significant portion of his remarks at the press conference, so that you could hear this man’s words in context for a change, it would shed blinding light on this whole subject.

Steve: Ok you want to read it?

Jim: Yes if that’s ok and you can bear with me.

"In fact it was under the previous government that signed Oslo, the labor government of Yitzhak Rabin, that Rabin's government as authorized under Oslo, in accordance with Oslo, the Har Homa project was authorized. They did so because it’s fully in line with Oslo. Oslo doesn’t in any way nullify or prevent Israel from building anywhere in Jerusalem. And no government as Rabin made many, many times clear, can prevent building in Jerusalem. By the way, in the internal documents as well, no government of Israel could accept the limitation on it’s right to build in Jerusalem, under Oslo or anything else. The Palestinian side promptly violated the specific clauses that it had undertaken in Oslo by opening several government offices. The Palestinian authority governmental offices which are in Jerusalem are specifically forbidden by Oslo and should be closed. So in the question of Jerusalem itself. That one issue that everyone talks about, it’s not Israel that violating Oslo it’s the Palestinian side. That’s point one, point two, in the last few weeks we have done the following under Oslo. We have redeployed in Hebron, that’s tough to do, but we did it. We have released the women terrorist prisoners, that was tough to do, but we did it. We have transferred monies to the Palestinian authorities, that’s tough to do, but we did it. Even though they owe us almost equal amounts in electric and government bills. Those still remain unpaid. We have redeployed on the first Hebron agreement, that was recognized by the United States, that was tough to do, but we did it".

Steve: Let me interrupt you. You’re still reading right?

Jim: Yes, I am still reading.

Steve: I just wanted to make sure about you reading Netanyahu's words.

Jim: This speech, in context, sheds blinding light of truth over this whole Mid East situation and inevitable war. I will post and keep as the last item on the Prophecy Fulfillment World News Update, the text of Netanyahu's speech. It is a pro Arab media, under new world order directions, which suppressed and distorts the truth. I will keep the transcript available. People need to read this transcript for themselves. I’m going to publish and keep this on the web site. What you are going to see, is when you look at the clips that came over the mainstream media, and you look at how the clips are taken out of context, you begin to see a totally distorted picture presented by the media. Israel has kept every part of the Oslo agreement. The Palestinians has kept none of them.

The real situation right now is this. Several weeks ago before all this stuff broke loose, they basically snapped a picture of that fox Arafat in the chicken coop with a chicken in his mouth and he has been spitting feathers ever since. It’s taken the state department 3 days to get a message through to him. He is for all practical purposes a dead man unless he can get this jihad going.

Steve: Now back up because I don’t know what you are talking about "they snapped a picture of him with a hen in his mouth" or whatever. That should be really specific because again…

Jim: That’s important. If you look back, and again when these things don’t hit the mainstream media, but back on about the beginning of March, Arial Sharon released the documentation that Arafat was personally responsible for the murder of two US diplomats and a Belgian diplomat. As a matter of fact the Israeli government actually gave tapes where our CIA verified, where Arafat gave the orders to shoot them. That’s why Arafat was barred from the United States for a number of years until he finally came to the United States for the signing of a peace accord. Well shortly after that, on the 27th, Israel released the facts where we learned that Arafat was the one commanding the bombing of the World Trade Center.

Steve: That’s March 27th of this year.

Jim: That’s correct. That came out of Arutz 7. Basically here’s a direct quote from the Nobel peace prize winner "either the Americans talk to me or else Bombs". They gave the documentation to our government of his complicity of the World Trade Center bombing. And beyond that Arafat gave the "green light" for the bombing in Tel Aviv, and released all the Hamas terrorist leaders. It was obvious by his language, and this is all on tape too, that he has fired up the Intifada. Now the whole reason that there was a peace process from the beginning, was that Israel took those lands back in 1967, there were UN resolutions passed and those resolutions said "you guys have to give this land back to the Arabs". Well, usually the victor owns the spoil. So Israel wanted to stop the Intifada. Now what started the Intifada…

Steve: Why don’t you explain what the Intifada to people who don’t know what that means.

Jim: Ok, the Intifata is the uprising, that’s the mob violence resistance. That is these terrorist attacks, the mob riots.

Steve: Guerilla warfare isn’t it really?

Jim: Well it’s, terrorist attacks and it’s generally just rioting, you know stone throwing malatov cocktails. For example today, 2 people were killed, 103 people were injured and it continues to escalate. Now the radical elements of Islam are not happy with the concessions that Arafat has gotten. Even though they have broken all these agreements, and the whole purpose of the agreements in the first place was that Israel was going to give back these lands provided they stop the Intifada violence. Now, once they dare start construction of Har Homa, they started up the violence. The media cries for appeasement, for the peace prize winning terrorist when he blatantly breaks the agreements and fires up the Intifada violence. Now appeasement never works with terrorists, with or without a peace prize. It never worked with Hitler and it sure isn’t going to work for Arafat's terrorists. Arafat basically has got to satisfy the religion of Islam. This is what we fail to understand in the West. That satanic religion of Islam requires that any Islamic turf that is ever taken by infidels must have a holy war, jihad, to reclaim that land. That’s why it was, the Palestinians insisted in provisions in these Oslo accords, that if there is another war after these accords are signed, that nobody including the UN, could say any of the land has to be given back. So they have been planning for this jihad all the way along. All that this 7year Peace & Safety process has done is establish a 5th column of between 50,000 and possibly as many as 80,000 well armed terrorist guerillas within the borders of Israel. So, when Israel is attacked this time, you know about the congressional reports?

Steve: Right.

Jim: When these scuds, chemical, biological and possibly nuclear are going to be coming in, and there’s a 5th column within the borders, all these guerilla’s, Israel knows they are facing total annihilation, which has always been the plan of the Palestinians and the rest of the Moslems.

Steve: Hey Jim, Yassir Arafat is on record, is he not, with declaring that one year from the turning over to the Palestinians of the portions of the West Bank that he said this "Jerusalem will be ours". So that means he is going to move right. He means Jihad, war, does he not?

Jim: Well that’s correct. Basically he knows the majority of the Arabs don’t want this peace process at all. The people over there that have the political strength are the radical elements. Now they’re set up for the war, there is a virtual state of war right now. It’s just that the Palestinians and the rest of the Arabs want to pick when the shooting starts. They seem to like to do it on Jewish holidays.

Steve: Are you aware, and please I don’t want to veer because of subject matter that’s so important, but I don’t know if you were on, but now they are claiming in the Washington Post that the militia may have stole the A-10.

Jim: That figures. Everything is going to be blamed on anti government terrorists.

Steve: You published today on your home page that the Southern Poverty Law Center in USA Today is now saying that the FBI turns aggressive on terror. Right under it is the number of patriot groups. This is what you published right?

Jim: That's correct, I call it a reality check. The reality check is this. You can go get you a copy of this, now we're not talking about a right wing fanatical publication here, we're talking USA Today. If you will look at the March 5th edition of USA Today, you will find this headline that says "FBI turns aggressive on terror". Now in their definition of terror groups, they include Churches, and anyone opposed to the "New World Order". Now if that doesn't give people a reality check. That is a declaration of war on Churches and those opposed to the "New World Order". Let's hope people will wake up!

Steve: Well, you know I think it should! Now back to the situation in Israel, ok? Yassir Arafat has himself imposed a deadline. The rest of the Arab world including Momar Gadafi statement that they have declared a Jihad war on Israel, Syria's scuds on the border of Northern Israel with VX nerve gas and all those things. You made the statement at the beginning of the show and I want to get this across, 5 minutes! Would you delve into that a little bit, because I think people need to understand. I know where you are coming from, but I don't thing that people understand that the only option is the Sampson option. That is the only option that is left open to Israel when that day comes, is it not?

Jim: That's right and these things are in the scriptures that's why we know they're going to happen.

Steve: Right, we have to take another one of those necessary breaks. Ladies and gentlemen you are listening to Jim Searcy. This is the focal point. This is where you should be watching when it happens in Israel. We're talking 5 minutes ladies and gentlemen. Things will change so fast so quickly, you won't even know that it happened until the next morning. We'll be right back.

Steve: We're back ladies and gentlemen with Jim Searcy. Now Jim again there's that 5 minute thing. I want you to define that and explain that because people don't realize what's at stake here. This is not just escalating rhetoric that's going to be put to bed by diplomatic efforts. What they are seeing is the beginning of the major Biblical events that God has detailed in His Word. So could you define the 5 minute thing?

Jim: Yes, exactly what's going to happen is that there are weapons at the ready. We don't understand how small some of these distances are. In other words the launch point from Israel to Damascus is less than 5 minutes. What we are going to see is a fulfillment of Isaiah 17 and Amos 1, let me read those verses.

Isaiah 17:1 says
"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap." And Amos chapter 1 says "And he said, The Lord will roar from Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the habitations of the shepherds shall mourn, and the top of Carmel shall wither. Thus saith the Lord; For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron. But I will send fire into the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad. I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the scepter from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the Lord. Thus saith the Lord; For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they carried away captive the whole captivity, to deliver them up to Edom: But I will send a fire on the wall of Gaza, which shall devour the palaces thereof: And I will cut off the inhabitant from Ashdod, and him that holdeth the scepter from Ashkelon, and I will turn mine hand against Ekron: and the remnant of the Philistines shall perish ,saith the Lord God".

We're 5 minutes away from seeing this fulfilled! Because Israel knows that this time it is a war of total annihilation. All of the hundreds and hundreds of scuds that Iraq, Syria and Egypt have aimed at Israel, positively contain chemical and biological. And there's very strong reason to believe that there are also SS4's capable of coming in from Iran tipped with Nuclear. So when Israel determines when that first scud is ready to come in they realize they have no choice but to totally level Damascus. It will be nothing but a ruinous heap. Jane's intelligence review, that a very prestigious magazine out of England.

Steve: It doesn't get any better.

Jim: Well they released a report concluding that the war in the Middle East is closer than anyone had thought. But that in any event, Israel will emerge victorious. Claiming that Israel has become the 3rd strongest world power. That Jane's report article says that the Israeli Air Force is 7 to 8 times stronger than the combined might of those Arab nations and the IDF is presently a generation ahead of the Arab forces. There are reports coming out of Congressmen Saxon's office that the situation according to his report, and I think you are very familiar with that report, it's much much more serious. Basically there is a state of war, and it's just a matter of when the Arab's choose to kick off this Jihad. They have been working hard to brew it. Every Mosque around the world for 6 months has been hearing about how Israel is tunneling under the Al-Asqua Mosque and the Dome of the Rock to cause this thing to cave in. It is utter foolishness, but it's an intensive world wide Iranian propaganda campaign to get every Moslem in the world ready for Jihad to annihilate Israel as they have planned since before Oslo.

Steve: Have you seen too, Jim, the parallel with the black Moslems in this country? I have reported on my radio program one of their newest "Final Call" which is their official publication of the Black Moslems here in America. Now we go to Libya, and where Libya's Momar Gadafi made the statement months ago, that he now sees that he has within his ability by using Louis Farrakhan the ability to punish the great "Satan America".

Jim: Yes, this is what we have to understand, Israel is the "little Satan" and America is the "Great Satan" This is what people just can't seem to come to grips with because of the way the media twists everything. There's only one good source of truth and that's the Bible and we know who said that and He can't lie. That is one of the 3 things that I know about God. Number 1 He can't lie, number 2 He doesn't change, and number 3 if He said it's going to happen, it's going to happen because of Who it is that said it! So, because He said these things, we know they're going to happen. Now nobody knows the day or the hour, but we do know from what Yeshua answered his Apostles when they asked Him this question, that it involves the Holy Place and we can read about it in Daniel. That verse in Daniel 9:27 has got to be one of the most loaded verses in all of the scriptures. It goes something like "and he shall confirm the covenant with the many", and by the way that Hebrew word is Rabin. God put the name of the very man in that verse that would sign that thing. And he shall confirm this covenant with Rabin for "Shaboa" is the Hebrew word. And that's a seven-year period. Now I've checked and I don't know of another peace treaty with a time limit. Usually when you make a peace treaty everybody hopes that it goes on forever. Now this one that we're talking about signed on September 13, 1993 had a time limit. And oh, by the way ,it happened to be a Shaboa, 7 year time limit for the period.

The verse goes on to say that in the midst of this seven year period, the peace and safety agreement will be broken, and for the overspreading of the abominations (plural), he will cause this morning and evening sacrifice and oblation to cease. So what is the "midst" of this seven-year period? Well year 4 would be a pretty good guess. And I know of at least a dozen top Bible scholars, who have taken different valid scriptural paths, and come to the same conclusion, all intersecting in the year 1997. And we know that this is the game plan of the new world order and the illuminati and the rest of them, that in 1997 is when they are going to make their big power grab. So we see these things happening, why? Because God's word is the ultimate absolute source of truth and reality.

Steve: Let me ask you this Jim, ok, when Damascus ceases to be, and I believe that's literal, what will be the outcome? I'm asking for your thoughtful considerations. What will be the outcome for Tehran, Baghdad, and let's say Egypt, Cairo?

Jim: Well, the way I think it's going to come down is like this. I think Israeli intelligence is good enough to know when that first scud is going to be launched. At that time the weapon on Damascus will be launched. Netanyahu will call Clinton and let him know as a courtesy it's coming down. Then he'll call Cairo and say, "do you want to be next"? He'll then call Tehran and say; "do you want to be next"? Then he'll call Baghdad and say, "do you want to be next"? He'll call Ankara and say, "do you want to be next"? The war on the borders will cease and it won't take the IDF long to round up Arafat's terrorists.

Steve: Ok we'll be right back with my special guest Jim Searcy.

Steve: Well were back, ladies and gentlemen, with Jim Searcy. Jim let me ask you this, what will you expect the outcome to be or where do you see Russia now entering into this? In other words when Israel will be forced to take out Damascus, where do you see Russia, because Russia is factored in the equation? Russia has a mutual defense treaty with Syria and with Iran do they not?


Jim: Yes, this is the big question, just how much judgment will fall on the United States? I am sure you are familiar with the visions from David Wilkerson, Dimitri Duduman and Henry Gruver have all had.

Steve: Yes I am familiar with them all and I don't say that our of arrogance, I just have monitored for over 22 years is every single vision by men and women of God from around the world concerning this time period that I believe that America is coming into right now.

Jim: Well the thing about it is there is scriptural substantiation for what they have seen, but essentially the Russian subs which are off of both of our coasts, every time a super tanker comes in or out, one of those subs goes in and out. Once they get on the bottom they just sit there, but they're basically not detectable. So they may time this key from the Arab countries on Israel with this strike, or Russia may strike us right after that, if we appear to be the allies of Israel. Now the thing we've got to remember that the scriptures clearly say that all nations will turn against Israel. Our only hope of avoiding judgment is that we stand by the only reliable ally that we have ever had and that's Israel. Israel, we must stand with her. Exactly how that's going to come down, I don't know. This much I do know, that very shortly after that war, and Jane's says it will be a short war indeed, probably only a week maybe even less than 7 days duration. According to what we have read earlier in Amos chapter 1, Mr. Arafat is going to get his saddle shipped home too. There's some judgment coming down on Gaza. So how that's going to shape up, we're going to have to see how it plays out.

Now you know we have been talking about a lot of this stuff and it could be real scary. But we've got to, I think, Steve, take a little time to shift focus her little bit. What does this mean? It means that we are blessed to be part of the most privileged generation ever to live because the promise to all of the prophets, is that in these last days, God is going to pour out his Spirit on all flesh like it's never been seen. Yeshua has given his faithful remnant people a tremendous battle plan. In Revelation chapter 2 and 3 He gives 5 warnings and 10 promises, and if we receive this outpouring of His Spirit, you see because He talks about sending out His angel to seal His people, that's my hope. I don't know about you, I've been filled with the Holy Spirit many times, but I leak a lot. I need this seal. Once we get this seal the only thing that will make a rip of difference from the deepest part of our innermost being, is how He may be glorified! And at that point we're going to see people walking around in the kind of power and authority that Yeshua Himself did. Now I'm not talking manifest sons of God heresies here or anything like that. I'm talking this is the promise of the Prophets!

Those 5 warnings, if we will pay attention to those 5 warnings and get this seal in the fullness of the Spirit, we're looking at the greatest opportunity to bring souls into the kingdom. Literally living supernaturally and there is no other way around this. These things can not be stopped. In other words God has said they are going to happen and we are watching them unfold.

Steve: Well you know Jim, I think it is fascinating because, you know the "mark of the beast" has gotten a lot of play and a lot of books written about it. I don't know very few books have been written about God's seal. In other words He is putting His seal on His servants. And for people that want to look at that, it's found in the first couple of chapters of Ezekiel is it not?

Jim: That's correct Ezekiel chapter 9, I think, and it's also in Revelation where He talks about sending out His angel to seal his people before these judgments come down. This battle plan, the first of the 5 warnings was, "remember your first love" In other words, this needs to be preparation one and job number one of everyone that believes. Even the people that don't believe, one of these days, they are going to look up and say "YES - U - AH!!! God, YES - U - AH. " That is His name, that's what the Apostles called Him. The letter J was not even invented until about 400 years ago. But we need to really focus in on Him. Because that's the main thing. He is our protection, as we enter this time of Jacob's trouble, the God of Jacob is our only refuge. Part of our plans to endure to the end must include an outreach to "Jacob".

I want to tell you that the Spirit of God is being poured out on Jewish people today! A lot of people are afraid to share the Gospel with Jewish people. The most Jewish thing that there is that any Jew could do, is to get to know his own Jewish Messiah, Yeshua! There are only 2 things that you need to tell the Jew. First, without the shedding of blood there is no remission. See that's your bridge, that's your link. Because a lot of these people still believe Torah, and they believe Moses. They know that Judaism today is not Biblical Judaism, it's Rabbinic Judaism. They know that because there is no Temple, there can't be any blood sacrifices, see!

Steve: In other words, there is no remission for sins?

Jim: Right! And they know this. When you tell the Jew that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin, be careful to use His real Hebrew name. We need to be careful to use His real Hebrew name. The second thing to tell the Jew is, Yeshua can forgive your sins. That is all the Jew needs to know. Trust the Holy Spirit to do the rest of it.

Steve: Ok Jim, we'll be back after the break. I also want to ask Jim about some of the things he's written about concerning some of the different doctrines that he's dealt with. We'll be right back with Jim Searcy.

I'm reading Jim a question, it was question number 4 that someone sent to you, and I think that your answer is really good. By the way I want to make the point that there are a lot of Palestinian Christians too.


Jim: Oh yes!

Steve: We are not talking about Palestinians as a catch all, in other words there are many Palestinian believers in the living God and in His Son so I want to make that clear.

Jim: And by the way they are the most persecuted in the land of Israel, because their family puts out a death warrant when they come to Yeshua.

Steve: Right! Listen to this and let me read you this question then I want you to give you your answer because it's a great one. Someone wrote you this question it says, "God does not speak to man directly, which we would both challenge, one has the Bible and other's have ministers, etc to help pin point these things. Like I said no one seems to be sure as to how it's going to happen and when. Everyone has a different layout and then some. So, then who and how can you trust what anyone has to say? I will continue to read all that you have and I plan to stay up on everything." In other words this person is claiming that there are so many voices in like Paul said all of them have some effect, but how do you know the Voice of God? I think that's the question that has been asked on my program and we have had people on to answer that, but please go ahead an give your reply.

Jim: Adam, Adam, where are you? Samuel, Samuel,...., Saul, Saul,... Check to see how many times God calls the first name twice. Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets (Amos 3:7). The church decided to do away with the God ordained office of apostle and prophet. In the churches of America, prophets are about as welcome as ants at a picnic. True prophets are sure and they agree. You can know them because they just say what the scriptures say. If you don't know what the scriptures say you are in trouble. When you know the scriptures well enough then you know who you can trust.

Steve: Jim tell us how we may get a copy of your book "Great Joy in Great Tribulation" and also isn't that the name of your internet web site?

Jim: Yes the URL is,
http://www.moresureword.com/ or http://www.jimsearcy.com/

Now also if anyone is interested in the book there is a number that they could call to get that book. All 5000 printed copies of the GJiGT book are now in the hands of the saints. You can read the GJiGT book on line or from the GJiGT CD. There's a Messianic Congregation in San Antonio which has risen to this occasion. I believe the message on the Oblation Altar is one of the most important prophetic messages of 1997 and that's being offered to people for FREE on the internet also you MUST HEAR the COUNTDOWN Message http://www.gjigt-radio.com/podcast/audio/COUNTDOWN.mp3 . That COUNTDOWN message will
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We need to understand Israel. It's amazing to me. The first time that God mentions something in the scriptures we need to pay real close attention because, very often He will build on that. Usually, that is the best definition of the word that is to be found in the scriptures. The first time that we find the mention of that word Israel, if you will recall, there was a wresting match going on. Don't you know that we all wrestle with God, just the way that this guy Jacob did. You see Jacob is a name that means "supplanter" liar, trickster, dirty guy, cheater, everything that being born human represents.

Steve: Politician!

Jim: Yes! Politician, that works too! Anyhow he's wrestling with God. You see that we are all born thinking that we are all some sort of little god and we wrestle with God. Finally after wrestling all night with Yeshua, he came to the realization that there really was a God! He said I'm not going to let you go unless you bless me. Yeshua then said ok I will bless you. Your name will no longer be called Jacob, but Israel! Because as a prince you have power with God and with man. This not just Old Covenant, in the New Testament the definition of Israel is identical. In John 1:12 "
To them gave He power to become son's of God, even to them who believe on His name". ISRAEL!!! If we have been "born again" we are part of Israel. All believers must get that understanding otherwise the scriptures, especially prophesy scriptures, will be very confusing.

Steve: We'll be right back.

Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, with me is Jim Searcy. Well Jim, you're talking about Israel and one who has power with God. I think a lot of people get caught up in the fact that they don't really understand something. God deals with nations in history, He deals with individuals in eternity. Would you agree with that?


Jim: Yes very definitely. It is God who sets up princes and takes down kings. But He deals with us, each individually. He is a personal God and three things that everyone needs to keep in mind.

1. The only thing God can't do is lie. Satan, Lucifer is the liar.
2. That God doesn't change. Yeshua Messiah, the same yesterday, today, and forever. God said to Abraham,
I will bless those that bless you and curse those who curse you. Then we better realize that we're going to need the blessings of God and the most direct path to the blessings of God in the "time of Jacob's trouble", is to find a way to bless the Jew. There is no more greater blessing then when you do introduce the Jew to his own Glorious Holy Messiah, Yeshua!
3. If God said it will happen, it will happen exactly as He said. Whether we believe it or not, whether we like it or not, whether we agree with it or not is irrelevant, because of Who it is that said it.

Steve: Let me ask you this and I don't mean to interrupt that, why is there so much of a difficulty with Christians identifying with Israel? Why is it that many Christian people can not understand that with Satan it has been his desire since day one to destroy Israel as a nation?

Jim: Ah, what a great question!

Steve: Why is it that they, what is it, let me ask you this, forgive me for struggling.

Jim: No, that is the essential question, and I am glad that you asked that. We need to understand that Satan has always had his crosshairs on the Jew. There are so many promises that relate to these people. If Satan could ever wipe out the Jew, he would win his war with God. Satan has used the Church as his main weapon in killing the Jews. Satan has used the Christian Church to pull off the greatest schism that he's ever pulled off since he got Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden apple. When he began using the Catholic Church as his instrument to destroy the Jews in about the 4th century. Jews need to understand that there is a difference between the Church which would persecute the Jews and the True Church of Yeshua Messiah which will always lay down its life to protect the Jews. Jews also need to understand that even the Catholic church has been duped by Satan in this conspiracy. It began when Constantine came on the scene, to mix paganism and Christianity. What he did is he said you can no longer keep the 4th commandment. Now Yeshua said "if you love me keep my commandments". When did God change the 4th commandment?

Steve: Well, I don't believe that He has!

Jim: No and see that's part of it! But also in those decisions came down these decisions that said you can not celebrate the feasts. Now most people think that these are Jewish feasts, but my Bible says, these are My feasts saith the Lord. We, as believers, have always been called to make the Jews jealous of our understanding and relationship to God through Yeshua the Messiah .

You see every time a Jew eats a meal he says this little blessing. Baruch ata Adonai....... Blessed art thou, Oh Lord.... Yeshua, every time He ate He said "Blessed art thou oh Lord our God, King of the Universe, who brings forth bread from the earth." The Jew has said this all his life because he's a Jew. He doesn't know what it means, but we know what it means. We can explain it to him. Yeshua, the Bread of Life, was brought forth from the earth, the Resurrection!!! When we start celebrating these feasts of the Lord, with understanding, that will make them jealous, and they will ask the reason of the hope that is in us.

We must understand that Israel is the name of the family of God. It is what God calls people who have become part of His family by being born again by their relationship with Messiah. We are Israel, if we are born again by having our sins remitted by the atoning blood of Yeshua the Messiah. The Church has not replaced Israel. The truly regenerate, born again members of the Church become part of Israel. If a Church is not part of Israel it is not part of the family of God. That is what name God's family has been given by God. If we think all the things in the Book of Revelation apply just to Israel, well guess what, if you're "born again" then you are part of Israel! You're right they do apply to Israel, but if you're "born again," then you are part of Israel. So get ready for the tribulation before the rapture.

Now when this decision came down in the forth century, what happened was, the Jews could no longer still be Jews and be a follower of their own Jewish Messiah, Yeshua. That represents the greatest schism in all of history! It still carries over to this very day. That's why these people who have any anti-Semitism are in deep trouble. I say flat out in my book that anti-Semitism is antichrist. If you can't get a love in your heart for the people of Israel, then brother, you' re in deep deep trouble. Because it's the God of Israel who is the only true God!

It's fascinating that less than two weeks before the "peace and safety" agreement was signed, all the religious leaders gathered in Chicago. I mean we had the big mucky mucks there, Steve. We had the Dali Lama himself come all the way from India or Tibet. We had the Pope's top Cardinal. We had all these Iatollas and Imams of Islam, we had Satanists, Buddhists, Hindus, Daoists, wica, the honorable Louis Farrakhan. These guys all signed on to this document called the "global ethic". What that represented to the world is the new world order religious system of the antichrist.

Steve: When was that done, Jim?

Jim: That was done 9 days before the 7 year "Peace and Safety" agreement.

Steve: September 1993

Jim: As close to coincidentally as you can get.

Steve: "The Global Ethic"!

Jim: "The Global Ethic"!

Steve: That makes me want to stick my finger down my throat!

Jim: Brother let me tell you. This is a masterpiece of satanic deception! In there you might read a paragraph that goes something like this, "Human life is infinitely precious, should be protected at all costs. We know that animal life is also precious and should also be protected, and of course plant life is also precious and should also be protected. But if you dare say that "Your God is the only true God" or if you dare say that your God is any better than anybody else's god, then you are not, listen to these word." You are not authentically human"! What does that mean to be "not authentically human?" Is it murder to kill a "not authentically human"? Now bear in mind that the target is the Jew. The specific target is the Jew! But it is also the faithful remnant Church which will identify with Israel.

Because of this great schism in the forth century, that schism was used by Satan as the foundation for the killing of millions of Jews! First of all it was the crusades. The crusades battle cry was "kill a Jew and save your soul"! How do you think that Yeshua felt about that? Then the inquisition, and then the pogroms, then the holocaust. You see there is another holocaust coming and it's called the "Global Ethic". If you understand your scriptures you know that if you are "born again" then you are part of Israel! Our main key to being able to endure to the end in the "time of Jacob's trouble" is to reach out and love Jacob into a relationship with his own glorious Messiah, Yeshua!

Steve: You know Jim, let me interrupt this because this is interesting. Based on the "Global Ethic" because Judaism is obviously monotheistic. The bottom line is that Christians and Jews have a monotheistic God, most of them, or let's say professing Christians and professing Jews, by the "Global Ethic" they are "not Authentically Human Beings."

Jim: The Global Ethic gives the people of the New World Order the license to "kill" them! Anybody that goes and tries to give them support, like the faithful remnant Christians did during the holocaust in Germany, they are a specific target of this thing. Now let me get one thing straight. I am not a Jew! However, because I've "been again" through the grace of the God, expressed through the shed blood of Yeshua Messiah, making atonement for my sins, I'm part of Israel. In fact, I am more surely a part of Israel, than the Sabra who does not know his Messiah, Yeshua! And I must make it clear that if you are not part of Israel, you are not part of the family of God. For the only way to identify the One True God, is that He identified Himself as the God who led the children of Israel out of the bondage of slavery in Egypt. Any God who cannot make that claim is not the true God.

Steve: Can I ask you a question?

Jim: Go ahead.

Steve: Aren't the very strongly anti-Semitic people going to have a hard time living in the "New Jerusalem" when it comes down from Heaven? What are they going to say "Lord, I want to live in the new Bronx as opposed to New Jerusalem?"

Jim: Well, some of the hyper dispensationalists think that Yeshua is coming back here to reign on the earth with Israel again, and The Church is going to go out somewhere else out in the universe. Well let me tell you something brother, if I can't be where Yeshua is, I don't like the other options.

Steve: Right, let me ask you this. We've acknowledged and here is a key point and I want to bring this out for people, the only way that they can make sense our of all of these events, is to understand that there is a supernatural demonic wicked, entity out there spearheading the entire assault on God's throne calling in to question God's justice and His righteousness. If they can destroy and totally wipe out and annihilate the Jews, in other words the nation of Israel, the inheritees, i.e. "The Church", then the bottom line then they can say that God's a liar, right?

Jim: That's exactly it! That's the game plan.

Steve: Let me finish up Jim, because I think it's very important. I don't mean to interrupt you. And that is basically the foundational battle that every single person who is not only wrestling with the God of Jacob, but is wrestling with the idea of "is there a living God"? They have to answer this question , "Whom will we serve"? Even Bob Dillon wrote a song once almost 10 years ago called "you've got to serve somebody"! The question is, who are you serving? You see you can't serve two masters, right?

Jim: That's exactly it. Much of what is taught in our Churches today, is how to serve God and mammon at the same time. Well Yeshua said you can't, no man can serve two masters. You can't do that. You will love the one and hate the other. That is a big part of why we will all be going through the Great Tribulation, where we will be forced to choose either God or mammon. But you will not be able to have both as we have had prior to the Great Tribulation with its mark of the beast monetary system of a global electronic cashless system.

Steve: Why don't you define mammon as you mean it. I know what you mean, but the listeners might not. We have wide spread American doctrine of the pretribulation rapture that has basically probably sold hundred's of millions of dollars worth of books. We have a group of Christians that say "don't confuse me with the truth, I'm out of here in the first sign of trouble"! So what I am saying would you deal with that mammon issue.

Jim: Well mammon is either money or your own plan. Basically that whole system of dispensational theology was developed for Americans that want to hold on to their own plan and do their own thing. People must dispense with their dispensational theology if they are ever going to have a chance of hearing what the prophets are saying to us for these glorious days in which we live. It's basically teaches you that you can serve God and go to Church and be a good Church person. You don't worry about the fact that God said all this stuff about how He's coming back because 7years or 3 and a half years before, or whatever, you're going to (phuuu!) be out of here.

That allows you to carry on with your plans in spite of the fact in the final 7 years it's going to be God's plan. When we get into God's plan it is so fantastic! We are so blessed to be part of this! What did Yeshua say? Yeshua said in verse 13 of Matthew chapter 24 He said, "he that shall endure until the end, the same shall be saved". Is the end 7 years before the end, is the end 3 and a half years before the end, or is the end the end? He says He is the alpha and the omega (aleph tav) the beginning and the end. He didn't mean He was almost God. The end is the end!

Steve: Let me ask you then, Jesus, even by those who basically can find no fault in Him, like even, Pilot could find no fault in Him. The situation is that Moslems, they will accept Him as a Holy Man and as a Prophet and a seer. Therefore if they accept Him as that, by their definition, then most likely He's not a liar. Therefore if He said all whoever came before Him were thieves and robbers, the basis of their argument is not one of logic, is not one of truth, it's one of hate! Were they not guilty of the greater "Hate Crime"?

Jim: Yes indeed they are. You see Jesus didn't give that option of being a "good man" or a "good teacher"! He's either a lair or a lunatic or He's Lord of All!

Steve: Indeed!

Jim: If you don't come to Him as Lord now, one of these days He's coming back, and they will be forced Honor Him as God, before going to the Lake of Fire!

Steve: Jim, another thing that I think people need to understand, and please again I am not trying to interrupt you, but I think it's important, the very situation that most people don't understand. Islam was built up militarily by the "New World Order". Would you agree with that?

Jim: Yes indeed it was!

Steve: Now, people ask me, "why was Islam built up by the 'New World Order'"? Islam, even though it is what I would say, quasi monotheistic? Quasi, means if they were honest they would know who "Allah" is. More so, because they see a lot of things coming. In that perspective of the "New World Order" with its Global Ethic can not tolerate them either. Don't you think it interesting that they are going to take care of all of their problems at once.

Jim: Oh yes! It's going to be an explosive situation.

Steve: We'll be right back ladies and gentlemen right after the break.

Steve: Well Jim on your internet page, you have a quote here, "in the middle of the 7 year peace and safety agreement the agreement is broken". This if from an editorial you did back on March 5, 1997. I want to read this because I want you to deal with this, ok? You said back on September 13, 1993 the world witnessed Rabin and Arafat signing the agreement of principles for the 7 year "peace and safety" agreement as President Clinton called it. The agreement of principles of a 2 year and a 5 year interim agreement was to stop the violence, end the Intifada, the Palestine uprising. Almost to the exact middle to the day March 23, 1997 the following report came in from the Israeli and global news, "Hamas called for Intifada in a statement on Land Day". It is true that Yassir Arafat has promised to have Jerusalem by within the next 6 months?


Jim: Right, and of course there is Israeli laws that say that that can't happen. It never has been a part of the Oslo Accords and all agreements basically say Arab hands off of Jerusalem.

Steve: Right, now let me ask you this. Do you think that Arafat's posture at this point, I want to get back to current events. Because we are running out of time and I want to have you back on again. I want people to understand that. This is, please, this is why I am almost intense on this issue, is that the bottom line in this whole thing is that Arafat is saying to the rest of the Islamic nations, "we're going for it boys, are you with me or against me"? Egypt now has declared that it is going to side with Syria. Syria's Assad has made the statement there is no choice but war. Libya has declared war. Iran and Iraq has both said that they will support Syria. Turkey is obviously going to go with the Northern Confederation. So, let me ask you this, do you see Clinton now pulling away with the build up now, let me ask 2 questions.
1. Do you see Clinton pulling away ?
2. What do you make of the build up in the Persian Gulf?


Jim: Well, they know that there's going to be war. Iran is preparing their cities for US Nuclear attack. This just came in today that Syrian president Assad pledged to liberate Arab lands occupied by Israel on the 50th anniversary of the Bath party's rise to power in Syria. So, it's coming down, we are literally at the point where at any moment we're 5 minutes away of seeing Damascus cease to be a city and be left nothing but a ruinous heap. Syrian cities are going to be smashed? Then that war will stop. The big question is how much judgment is going to fall on the United States?

Steve: Well let me ask you this. Here is point I am trying to draw out, and please, it's not that I have a presupposed bias, but I think this, I think that already based on intelligence that has been carried in open sources as well as top secret sources. The situation, Israel knows that the confederation, the Islamic confederation, has their day and their hour already set. They also know and by the way I don't know if you know this Jim, there are a lot of people from different news sources that are not Christians in any way shape or form, we're talking about Japanese Shintoists, we're talking about people from Australia, we're talking about people from the Philippines, people from all over the world know that this is getting ready to happen and the American people are still asleep. Let me ask you this, do you believe that prior to this event that God will somehow send a wake up call to what I call the "rapture believing Church"? Or do you think, and please if you don't know and I don't know either, I'm trying to ask you a hard question that I get asked and I don't know the answer for it. Or do you believe that this war in the Middle East will be the wake up call? You know what I mean?

Jim: Well Steve, I'm sorry to say I think that the war in the Middle East is going to be the wake up call. I think that people are going to be taken totally unaware, it's going to be a very small remnant indeed that is prepared for what is coming. Even those of us who have been looking into this, and are privileged to see exactly of what's coming down, and how precisely these things fulfill the prophesies. I had hoped that we would see a kind of an unfolding, you remember that Monte Judah had said that he had hoped to see the abomination of desolation on March 23, 1997. I had hoped that it would fold down that way, but more and more we see that it's going to be an explosion. I think the best thing we can do is look at what it says in Isaiah chapter 30, here again God puts the very word. You know what the Hebrew word for "wall" or "high wall" is?

Steve: No, what?

Jim: Homa, Har Homa. High wall. In Isaiah chapter 30 He describes this situation in some pretty fine detail, let's just take a look at that. In Zechariah, first, just to put it in perspective,

Zechariah chapter 12 :1-3
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Now in Isaiah chapter 30 starting in about verse 9, He says,

That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon: Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall (Har Homa), whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit. For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not. But ye said, No; for we will flee upon horses; therefore shall ye flee: and, We will ride upon the swift; therefore shall they that pursue you be swift. One thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one; at the rebuke of five shall ye flee: till ye be left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign on an hill.

Well this swelling out of a high wall is what it is. The Hebrew word in verse 13 it contains the very words of, Har Homa. The destruction is, and as an engineer, I understand structural analysis and stress analysis and the most dangerous kind of structural failure is column failure, because you don't get any warning. As soon as you begin to put enough stress on that column, or a high wall that's like a column, as soon as you put enough stress on it that you begin to get some eccentricity in it, it's destruction is explosive!

Steve: Wow!

Jim: We are ready, we are on the verge of the explosion. I wish that people could wake up and get a hold of this book that I wrote and see what the prophets actually have to say.

Steve: When we come back we'll deal with the whole issue of prophesy. You've done a marvelous job in explaining these things. We'll be right back ladies and gentlemen.

Steve: We're back ladies and gentlemen. Jim you did a really good job dealing with the whole subject of prophets, now obviously God gave the prophets for a purpose. They are to provoke the Church to consider its ways, to inform of coming judgment, but also to turn the hearts of the people back to God. I have to be candid with you, I don't believe that prophets are represented in today's popular guys writing books on the pretribulation rapture. So give us a little background on Biblically what a prophet is. Because you did such a marvelous job, and I don't mean that as flattery, I mean it specifically, you have really spelled it out clearly.

Jim: God promises that He not going do anything except He first reveal His secrets to His servants the prophets. You can easily tell the true prophet of God, you can reduce his whole vocabulary really to one word. Repent! The judgment of God is coming! There's a word that's just burning on my heart right now. It is found in Ezekiel. I'm going to look this up so I can get it to you straight. It's found in Ezekiel chapter 12 and you know there is a whole new realm of prophets going around now and they speak this into you and I speak that into you and if you look at most of what is being spoken, very often it is flattery. But look at what the Lord says by His prophet Ezekiel, you will find this in Ezekiel chapter 12 starting in about verse 21.

Steve: Jim let me ask you one thing, is it not true that prophets, specifically in the Old Testament ,always challenged the ungodly authority? Did God not send the prophets to the ungodly authority that was ruling wickedly over His people?

Jim: Well yes, He sent them to the kings and He sent them to the priests. Now, Steve this what we have to have it today in this country. The prophets have to go to these preachers of the pre-trib rapture. You know people are going to want to lynch these pre-trib guys when this starts coming down. "Why didn't you tell us this was coming! We trusted you"! These guys are not bad people. I wouldn't pick on any of them, it's just that they went to seminary and they were taught to teach you this strong delusion and it is, sorry, it's not what the scriptures say! Let me give you this word of Ezekiel. I think that the Lord would have me tell this word to you and everyone. The timing of this strong word is for right now and listen to this.

Ezekiel 12.21
And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth? Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will make this proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision. For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel. For I am the LORD: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord GOD. Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that he seeth is for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are far off. Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; There shall none of my words be prolonged any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be done, saith the Lord GOD. And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing! O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts. Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD. They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word. Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken? Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD. And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD. Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered mortar:

They have built up the wall and others have daubed it with untempered mortar. Again, Har Homa. That's the wall.

Steve: Alright, Jim let me interrupt you for a second, ok? Again , what you are saying is, that it is related to prophesy, ok? That the people who are, and it goes back to what I said, prophesy and prophets are more than someone who writes a book on the pretribulation rapture. God is saying, I even I am against the false prophets!

Jim: That's exactly right, He's saying , Woe unto these guys that prophesy out of their own hearts! There are things that people need to know about prophets, first of all they don't tell you what you want to hear! They don't prophesy flattery, they don't give you what you want to hear and feed your vanity. They tell you basically one word, repent! They are always going to be in the minority. You're not going to want to listen to them, you're not going to want to hear what they say because they won't tell you what you want to hear, they are going to tell you what God says to tell you! Thus saith the Lord, they are going to read you scripture, they are going to quote scripture. If you want to receive it, fine and if you don't want to receive it, fine. All they are is a mouth piece for God and they are calling people to repentance. This nation is getting it's final calls to repent because the judgement of God is coming brother!

Steve: I would argue with you on that, I would say that it’s here! Please I don’t mean that to be contentious. Now the other thing that a prophet basically does, that’s the scriptural foundation of what God is trying to do. The Church will accept Pastors, they’ll accept Evangelists, they’ll accept Teachers by some large degree, but they won’t accept Apostles, i.e. master builders or they won’t accept the prophetic word. Let me ask you this Jim, do you see this conceivable that after this attack takes place in the Middle East, could you see this taking place first then the sacrifice being initiated?

Jim: That’s exactly what I see. I believe there are people in Israel who have wanted to do this sacrifice because it is something commanded to them, by the Lord. They want to do it, but they can’t. They know that they are so close to war that they would have war immediately, so they can’t. But right after this war there will be nothing stopping them. Those sacrifices will go up and believers should understand that they better not dare speak against those sacrifices! They are not abominations, they are sweet savors, they say who the true God is. It flies right in the face of this "Global Ethic"!

Steve: I know what I would like to see fly right in the face of the "Global Ethic" but that’s for another day…

Jim: God has a great plan! …. Break…

Steve: Ladies and Gentlemen my special guest is Jim Searcy. I’ll have him back on, Jim the last question that I have for you tonight, we have about 3.5 to 4 minutes. What should people look for, what will be the trigger, not the trigger of that necessarily, but what do you see taking place in Palestine, you know that Palestinian part of Israel? What should people look for over there so they’ll know that it’s here?

Jim: When the shooting starts in Israel, it’s going to be serious, ok. What I am going to do tonight, Steve, as soon as we get off, I’m going to upload on the web site, the whole talk of Netanyahu’s press conference. I will keep it up as the last item on the Prophecy Fulfillment World News Update. I think that this is the best thing to put things into perspective for everybody because he goes through it point by point by point. You will see the deception that the international media has placed on the American people. We have systematically been so hoodwinked, not only by the media, but by the TV and by our Churches as well. Now I don’t think that they are willing accomplices. I think that most of them are good people, but they are certainly deceived about how imminent this whole thing really is. Could I give that web site address one more time?

Steve: Please do and also give out your phone number for your book.

Jim: Ok the web site is again, http://www.moresureword.com and that’s one word, all small letters and no spaces or http://www.jimsearcy.com  Now the book is fully available on line - just click up the chapter titles. This "prophesy fulfillment world news update" is at least updated daily and sometimes updated hourly when things are really coming down. Just watch for this Intifada to keep building in intensity. When the Palestinians start shooting, that’s when things are really going to be coming down.

Steve: Ok Jim, thanks so much for being on with me tonight!

Jim: Really have enjoyed it and maybe we can get on again together and take some questions from callers.

Steve: Ok, but I wanted to let you build a base before that time. 2 hours goes too fast. Thank you my friend! …. Break ….. Ladies and Gentlemen we are not dealing with a "what if" situation we are dealing with a "when" situation and the question that I want you to ask yourselves, "are all these events"… by the way today the Chinese, we raised on the John Paul Jones, the missile frigate, we raised the Chinese flag and people around the country, men and women of the armed services who have fought for this country, have been calling the Navy saying, "we think that this is an affront for every American war veteran"! If you want to call the Navy and say "no way should the John Paul Jones have the Chinese flag."

Good night Ladies and Gentlemen, thanks for listening.

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